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		<title>By: Miranda Grell &#187; The Betrayal of Waltham Forest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miranda Grell &#187; The Betrayal of Waltham Forest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 11:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and Z &#8211; and their &#8220;coalition&#8221; colleagues past and present &#8211; have some very serious explaining to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jim Spence</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Spence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 06:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi While searching for Blogs about legitimate government grants scams I found your site Waltham Forest Labour Group finally take proper action to deal with the Neighbourhood Renewal Fund scandal? - Lord Toby Harris.  Thank you for the effort you have put in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi While searching for Blogs about legitimate government grants scams I found your site Waltham Forest Labour Group finally take proper action to deal with the Neighbourhood Renewal Fund scandal? &#8211; Lord Toby Harris.  Thank you for the effort you have put in.</p>
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		<title>By: John too</title>
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		<dc:creator>John too</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello there John
Dave is spot on, if you want a challenge then come out in the open. We do not mind if you are council leader C. Loakes who has helped this borough to gain a four star status. In reality is the council a four star borough? Are residents happy with this new achievement?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello there John<br />
Dave is spot on, if you want a challenge then come out in the open. We do not mind if you are council leader C. Loakes who has helped this borough to gain a four star status. In reality is the council a four star borough? Are residents happy with this new achievement?</p>
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		<title>By: David Hayes</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Hayes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must take issue with john&#039;s statement that the internal politics of Leyton &amp; Wanstead Constituency Labour Party &quot;have very little to do with policy or principle, but a lot to do with poisonous personal differences.&quot; I am a member of this Party.

There are of course personal differences in politics, and if it were to be said of me that my interest in the BNI controversy is partly inspired by these I could not deny it. But I will not have this said of the authors of the BNI motion carried by my constituency party, who are sincere people who are simply concerned that money which ought to have been spent helping disadvantaged people in their own neighbourhoods has been misspent and that the Council has a moral duty to make amends.

Neither is john&#039;s statement justified in relation to the officers and members of my Constituency Labour Party as a whole. We have a strikingly pleasant atmosphere at most of our meetings and gatherings, because the good-natured majority have successfully resisted the attempts of the pedlars of poison to spoil things. We have a growing membership, and represent the best of Labour&#039;s traditional values which must surely be the bedrock of a future Labour revival. Join us! 

As for john, if he is who I think he is, he is one of the people who attempted to poison the atmosphere of Leyton &amp; Wanstead Labour Party and who have now mostly crawled off to some more congenial habitat. If he is really a member of the Labour Party, he will know who I am because I am using my real name. Perhaps john could throw away the mask of anonymity so that we can judge for ourselves his credentials for making this attack on us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must take issue with john&#8217;s statement that the internal politics of Leyton &amp; Wanstead Constituency Labour Party &#8220;have very little to do with policy or principle, but a lot to do with poisonous personal differences.&#8221; I am a member of this Party.</p>
<p>There are of course personal differences in politics, and if it were to be said of me that my interest in the BNI controversy is partly inspired by these I could not deny it. But I will not have this said of the authors of the BNI motion carried by my constituency party, who are sincere people who are simply concerned that money which ought to have been spent helping disadvantaged people in their own neighbourhoods has been misspent and that the Council has a moral duty to make amends.</p>
<p>Neither is john&#8217;s statement justified in relation to the officers and members of my Constituency Labour Party as a whole. We have a strikingly pleasant atmosphere at most of our meetings and gatherings, because the good-natured majority have successfully resisted the attempts of the pedlars of poison to spoil things. We have a growing membership, and represent the best of Labour&#8217;s traditional values which must surely be the bedrock of a future Labour revival. Join us! </p>
<p>As for john, if he is who I think he is, he is one of the people who attempted to poison the atmosphere of Leyton &amp; Wanstead Labour Party and who have now mostly crawled off to some more congenial habitat. If he is really a member of the Labour Party, he will know who I am because I am using my real name. Perhaps john could throw away the mask of anonymity so that we can judge for ourselves his credentials for making this attack on us.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Tiratsoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Tiratsoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 08:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amanda: you are spot on.
The sadness is that NRF was a very good idea.
If the Council had worked in partnership with local people, small amounts of expenditure could have helped transform the poorer wards.
Because it didnt, and because so much of the money was frittered away on consultants and/or projects that were fatally mismanaged, the opportunity for change has been wasted.
Astonishingly (or perhaps not!), the Council does not track the impact of NRF in any systematic way, but there are staws in the wind. For example, when officers recently briefed a consultant in private, one made the following observation:
&#039;Criticism has come from neighbourhoods level [sic]: is the funding distributed fairly? Has the investment worked? Why does the Index of Multiple Deprivation between 2001, then 2004 and now 2007, show no improvement? In fact, number of SOAs in the Borough in the worst 10% in the country has gone up. Some have become relatively worse. Some Ward councillors have asked what the point of the programme is given this data&#039;.
That says it all, really.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amanda: you are spot on.<br />
The sadness is that NRF was a very good idea.<br />
If the Council had worked in partnership with local people, small amounts of expenditure could have helped transform the poorer wards.<br />
Because it didnt, and because so much of the money was frittered away on consultants and/or projects that were fatally mismanaged, the opportunity for change has been wasted.<br />
Astonishingly (or perhaps not!), the Council does not track the impact of NRF in any systematic way, but there are staws in the wind. For example, when officers recently briefed a consultant in private, one made the following observation:<br />
&#8216;Criticism has come from neighbourhoods level [sic]: is the funding distributed fairly? Has the investment worked? Why does the Index of Multiple Deprivation between 2001, then 2004 and now 2007, show no improvement? In fact, number of SOAs in the Borough in the worst 10% in the country has gone up. Some have become relatively worse. Some Ward councillors have asked what the point of the programme is given this data&#8217;.<br />
That says it all, really.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 18:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you so much for your interest in this matter.I have lived here almost all my life and know what a difference even a small amount of money could have made. The people who live here are grateful to you for working hard to get this out in the open. 

We don&#039;t blame &quot;Labour&quot; for what has gone on as we know it was the labour government who wanted this money to go to help the poorest neighbourhoods. We know labour MP Harry Cohen has refused to help brush this under the carpet and has written about the issue in his leaflets. We know it is local labour party people who have demanded any mis-spent money be returned to our area.(and been accused of &#039;poisonous personal differences because they&#039;ve been brave enough to try and act). But if the national  labour party wishes to escape blame they need to act too.

Any money spent on olympics, publicity or other vanity projects needs to be returned immediately and spent properly. It is too late now to save some of our young people who have been crually taken from us but we may be able to do something for the youngsters whose lives could still be turned around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much for your interest in this matter.I have lived here almost all my life and know what a difference even a small amount of money could have made. The people who live here are grateful to you for working hard to get this out in the open. </p>
<p>We don&#8217;t blame &#8220;Labour&#8221; for what has gone on as we know it was the labour government who wanted this money to go to help the poorest neighbourhoods. We know labour MP Harry Cohen has refused to help brush this under the carpet and has written about the issue in his leaflets. We know it is local labour party people who have demanded any mis-spent money be returned to our area.(and been accused of &#8216;poisonous personal differences because they&#8217;ve been brave enough to try and act). But if the national  labour party wishes to escape blame they need to act too.</p>
<p>Any money spent on olympics, publicity or other vanity projects needs to be returned immediately and spent properly. It is too late now to save some of our young people who have been crually taken from us but we may be able to do something for the youngsters whose lives could still be turned around.</p>
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		<title>By: William</title>
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		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hooray for the voice of reason amidst the insanity that is Clyde Loakes and Waltham Forest council. If only we had council leaders like Lord Harris in our wonderful borough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hooray for the voice of reason amidst the insanity that is Clyde Loakes and Waltham Forest council. If only we had council leaders like Lord Harris in our wonderful borough.</p>
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		<title>By: Katherine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you so much for persuing the investigation into this matter. Many local people are totally exasperated with the Waltham Forest council and they way they tend to treat the local people. There is a culture of consultancy, PR spin but not listening to local people&#039;s fears, concerns, wishes and ideas. I am grateful to all those involved in working hard to bring this to light.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much for persuing the investigation into this matter. Many local people are totally exasperated with the Waltham Forest council and they way they tend to treat the local people. There is a culture of consultancy, PR spin but not listening to local people&#8217;s fears, concerns, wishes and ideas. I am grateful to all those involved in working hard to bring this to light.</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
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		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Nick,
There clearly has been faults at both officer and councillor level and that has been acknowledged and apologised for. I am not sure what purpose is achieved though in seeking scapegoats. It seems to me there was an &#039;institutional&#039; problem in that officers clearly felt under no obligation to follow the council&#039;s clearly laid out procedures for contracts and procurement. So although most of the contracts under discussion were strictly the responsibility of less senior officers, it would be grossly unfair to hang them out to dry, when their senior managers should have ensured there was a culture of strictly following these procedures within their directorates. And of course, while councillors can&#039;t, indeed, shouldn&#039;t be micro-managing contracts at this level, they do have a responsibility to ensure that not only are the correct procedures and rules in place (they were as far as I am aware) but also that they are being followed. That clearly didn&#039;t happen and not enough questions were asked, especially considering the efforts you and others were putting into raising problems that were occurring.
However, your final point e) shows that, probably fortunately for you, you are unaware of the internal politics within this particular constituency party, most of which have very little to do with policy or principle, but a lot to do with poisonous personal differences.
I think that overall an administration that started in 2002 from a position of 0* from the audit commission and now has 4* (I believe the only council in the country to achieve this transformation) probably when judged as a whole could be regarded as adding to the reputation of the Labour Party - and this has been achieved while also having to coexist with an opposition party in joint administration, let&#039;s not forget. But if you only look at this issue and forget everything else, then no, I suppose, then the picture is bleaker. But I refuse to take such a blinkered perspective, recognising that councillors and council officers are responsible for a great deal more than this BNI initiative. Considering the problems the council faced at this time many positive things have been achieved. Did they drop this particular ball - probably. Did they take too long acknowledging this - probably. Did they fail to take your concerns seriously enough and treat you as an annoying irritant - I suspect they did. Does this amount to &#039;a scandal&#039; - only if there was proven evidence of widespread fraud and corruption or misuse of public funds. And I repeat, saying that money hasn&#039;t been properly accounted for (as clearly has happened here) does not mean that it should be assumed it has all been misspent. The only allegation that I have heard the police are investigating is not with the council but Eduaction. Otherwise it is just another case of a bureaucracy working very slow and cumbersomely to change course and correct errors made in the past. Are they seeking to limit damage to the council&#039;s reputation- of course they are, who wouldn&#039;t? They have a legal responsibility I would have thought to do so. Are you seriously suggesting officers and councillors should be donning hairshirts, exclaiming &#039;mea culpa, mea culpa..&#039;? I had rather hoped we had moved on from these dark ages practices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Nick,<br />
There clearly has been faults at both officer and councillor level and that has been acknowledged and apologised for. I am not sure what purpose is achieved though in seeking scapegoats. It seems to me there was an &#8216;institutional&#8217; problem in that officers clearly felt under no obligation to follow the council&#8217;s clearly laid out procedures for contracts and procurement. So although most of the contracts under discussion were strictly the responsibility of less senior officers, it would be grossly unfair to hang them out to dry, when their senior managers should have ensured there was a culture of strictly following these procedures within their directorates. And of course, while councillors can&#8217;t, indeed, shouldn&#8217;t be micro-managing contracts at this level, they do have a responsibility to ensure that not only are the correct procedures and rules in place (they were as far as I am aware) but also that they are being followed. That clearly didn&#8217;t happen and not enough questions were asked, especially considering the efforts you and others were putting into raising problems that were occurring.<br />
However, your final point e) shows that, probably fortunately for you, you are unaware of the internal politics within this particular constituency party, most of which have very little to do with policy or principle, but a lot to do with poisonous personal differences.<br />
I think that overall an administration that started in 2002 from a position of 0* from the audit commission and now has 4* (I believe the only council in the country to achieve this transformation) probably when judged as a whole could be regarded as adding to the reputation of the Labour Party &#8211; and this has been achieved while also having to coexist with an opposition party in joint administration, let&#8217;s not forget. But if you only look at this issue and forget everything else, then no, I suppose, then the picture is bleaker. But I refuse to take such a blinkered perspective, recognising that councillors and council officers are responsible for a great deal more than this BNI initiative. Considering the problems the council faced at this time many positive things have been achieved. Did they drop this particular ball &#8211; probably. Did they take too long acknowledging this &#8211; probably. Did they fail to take your concerns seriously enough and treat you as an annoying irritant &#8211; I suspect they did. Does this amount to &#8216;a scandal&#8217; &#8211; only if there was proven evidence of widespread fraud and corruption or misuse of public funds. And I repeat, saying that money hasn&#8217;t been properly accounted for (as clearly has happened here) does not mean that it should be assumed it has all been misspent. The only allegation that I have heard the police are investigating is not with the council but Eduaction. Otherwise it is just another case of a bureaucracy working very slow and cumbersomely to change course and correct errors made in the past. Are they seeking to limit damage to the council&#8217;s reputation- of course they are, who wouldn&#8217;t? They have a legal responsibility I would have thought to do so. Are you seriously suggesting officers and councillors should be donning hairshirts, exclaiming &#8216;mea culpa, mea culpa..&#8217;? I had rather hoped we had moved on from these dark ages practices.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Tiratsoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Tiratsoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 09:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi John,

I think you need to make up your mind about who (if anyone) is at fault.

The facts are as follows. 

(a) I first raised concerns about NRF in 2004 and 2005, and, after these were ignored or downplayed, wrote a long and damning report on one particular project, which I presented to the Leader and the Chief Executive in May 2006.

(b) It took another two years for anything meaninful to be done, but by then the horses had largely bolted, in that further large sums had been shovelled out of the door without any controls.

(c) I have evidence, a little of which I cite above, that LBWF has avoided answering my questions, or made statements to me that are frankly misleading.

(d) There are several important issues - concerning Dr Foster Intelligence, the BNI &#039;social cohesion&#039; projects, etc. - that remain outstanding, despite the fact that I have repeatedly brought them to the Council&#039;s attention.

(e) The situation is now judged serious enough for Harry Cohen MP and the local paper to call for a public inquiry, while the local Labour constituency party has also issued a sharply worded statement on similar (though not identical) lines.

So:

Is this the story of a local authority bravely facing up to its responsibilities? 

Or is it the story of a local authority seeking to engage in damage limitation, with the aim of protecting political and professional reputations?

In short, has the administration added to, or detracted from, the reputation of the Labour Party?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi John,</p>
<p>I think you need to make up your mind about who (if anyone) is at fault.</p>
<p>The facts are as follows. </p>
<p>(a) I first raised concerns about NRF in 2004 and 2005, and, after these were ignored or downplayed, wrote a long and damning report on one particular project, which I presented to the Leader and the Chief Executive in May 2006.</p>
<p>(b) It took another two years for anything meaninful to be done, but by then the horses had largely bolted, in that further large sums had been shovelled out of the door without any controls.</p>
<p>(c) I have evidence, a little of which I cite above, that LBWF has avoided answering my questions, or made statements to me that are frankly misleading.</p>
<p>(d) There are several important issues &#8211; concerning Dr Foster Intelligence, the BNI &#8216;social cohesion&#8217; projects, etc. &#8211; that remain outstanding, despite the fact that I have repeatedly brought them to the Council&#8217;s attention.</p>
<p>(e) The situation is now judged serious enough for Harry Cohen MP and the local paper to call for a public inquiry, while the local Labour constituency party has also issued a sharply worded statement on similar (though not identical) lines.</p>
<p>So:</p>
<p>Is this the story of a local authority bravely facing up to its responsibilities? </p>
<p>Or is it the story of a local authority seeking to engage in damage limitation, with the aim of protecting political and professional reputations?</p>
<p>In short, has the administration added to, or detracted from, the reputation of the Labour Party?</p>
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